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	<title>Comments on: [Greta Christina] Why I DO Care about John McCain&#8217;s Gay Chief of Staff</title>
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		<title>by: The Blowfish Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-41318</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] John McCain&#8217;s record on gay rights is consistently dismal. He has opposed every single gay rights measure of recent years. He opposes same-sex marriage, and supports the Defense of Marriage Act. He even opposes domestic partnerships and any sort of recognition of same-sex partnerships. He is opposed to gays serving in the military. He opposes adoption by same-sex couples. He thinks employers should be allowed to fire people simply for being gay. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] John McCain&#8217;s record on gay rights is consistently dismal. He has opposed every single gay rights measure of recent years. He opposes same-sex marriage, and supports the Defense of Marriage Act. He even opposes domestic partnerships and any sort of recognition of same-sex partnerships. He is opposed to gays serving in the military. He opposes adoption by same-sex couples. He thinks employers should be allowed to fire people simply for being gay. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Anon Ymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-40736</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think I read something once which talked about how homophobia is inversely correlated with wealth, education, and general prosperity. McCain is wealthy and educated. He no doubt has no personal problem with gay people. But he knows a large amount of his base are poor and ignorant, and want a leader who shares their prejudices, and based on this he votes to hurt people who he doesn't really have a problem with.

Holly, I think that's what makes it so bad. No, it wouldn't be better if he made himself look less hypocritical by not hiring gay people - because if he is still the same person he is still the same person, and the lie would just be better executed.

The problem is that it shows his character. It shows him to be a man who doesn't care that he stomps on good people to get where he's going. If he honestly believed that gay people were less than - well, he'd be a slimy arsehole, but he'd at least have some integrity. The fact that he votes to harm people who he *doesn't* believe to be less than? That just makes my blood run cold. That's a man you can't reason with - you can't show him that gay people are humans, with real feelings and real lives, because he already knows it. And he stomps on us anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I read something once which talked about how homophobia is inversely correlated with wealth, education, and general prosperity. McCain is wealthy and educated. He no doubt has no personal problem with gay people. But he knows a large amount of his base are poor and ignorant, and want a leader who shares their prejudices, and based on this he votes to hurt people who he doesn&#8217;t really have a problem with.</p>
<p>Holly, I think that&#8217;s what makes it so bad. No, it wouldn&#8217;t be better if he made himself look less hypocritical by not hiring gay people - because if he is still the same person he is still the same person, and the lie would just be better executed.</p>
<p>The problem is that it shows his character. It shows him to be a man who doesn&#8217;t care that he stomps on good people to get where he&#8217;s going. If he honestly believed that gay people were less than - well, he&#8217;d be a slimy arsehole, but he&#8217;d at least have some integrity. The fact that he votes to harm people who he *doesn&#8217;t* believe to be less than? That just makes my blood run cold. That&#8217;s a man you can&#8217;t reason with - you can&#8217;t show him that gay people are humans, with real feelings and real lives, because he already knows it. And he stomps on us anyway.
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		<title>by: Elise Conolly</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39313</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Greta - I think so.  I mean, it's a problem that he's voting against those rights, and it makes me very glad that I'm in the UK, but I just don't see why who he chooses to work with is particularly important.  I have major disagreements with plenty of my friends' and colleagues politics, and with friends we argue about it, but I've never seen it as a reason not to interact with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greta - I think so.  I mean, it&#8217;s a problem that he&#8217;s voting against those rights, and it makes me very glad that I&#8217;m in the UK, but I just don&#8217;t see why who he chooses to work with is particularly important.  I have major disagreements with plenty of my friends&#8217; and colleagues politics, and with friends we argue about it, but I&#8217;ve never seen it as a reason not to interact with them.
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		<title>by: Holly</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39256</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Honestly, I don't see why "John McCain votes against gay rights but has a gay Chief of Staff" is &lt;i&gt;worse&lt;/i&gt; than "John McCain votes against gay rights and won't hire gay people."  If someone's doing something wrong and discriminatory to begin with, I don't see why it would be better for them to be consistent in their wrongs.


(Also, he's the Chief of &lt;i&gt;Staff&lt;/i&gt;, har har har...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t see why &#8220;John McCain votes against gay rights but has a gay Chief of Staff&#8221; is <i>worse</i> than &#8220;John McCain votes against gay rights and won&#8217;t hire gay people.&#8221;  If someone&#8217;s doing something wrong and discriminatory to begin with, I don&#8217;t see why it would be better for them to be consistent in their wrongs.</p>
<p>(Also, he&#8217;s the Chief of <i>Staff</i>, har har har&#8230;)
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		<title>by: John Bisceglia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think that “Gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry but I’m perfectly happy to work and socialise with them” is a valid position. I disagree with it, but I don’t think it’s inherently hypocritical.”

This caught my eye also.  Here the word HYPOCRITE refers to "a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue" (Merriam-Webster), which is exactly what McCain is doing.   Those like him who live this hypocrisy remind me of a "Christian" acquaintance who brags how she always "killed them with kindness" when facing a dispute or conflict.  She erroneously thinks she is the better person, despite how her INTENTION is pure condescension and arrogance...hardly "Christ-like".   I mention this only because there are MANY Republican "Christian" types who wanna ease their own guilt of their perpetuation of social slavery and unfair taxation by befriending the LGBT community with one hand while holding civil rights outside of our reach with the other hand.   Nice.

I choose to NOT be around Republicans, not because I'm pouting and cannot hear different opinions, but because I cannot be in the same room with someone I do not trust.  I cannot be in the same room with someone who feigns friendship one day and votes away my civil rights the next.    They call ME intolerant?!   What a fortunate place to be in....THEY have all of the rights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that “Gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry but I’m perfectly happy to work and socialise with them” is a valid position. I disagree with it, but I don’t think it’s inherently hypocritical.”</p>
<p>This caught my eye also.  Here the word HYPOCRITE refers to &#8220;a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue&#8221; (Merriam-Webster), which is exactly what McCain is doing.   Those like him who live this hypocrisy remind me of a &#8220;Christian&#8221; acquaintance who brags how she always &#8220;killed them with kindness&#8221; when facing a dispute or conflict.  She erroneously thinks she is the better person, despite how her INTENTION is pure condescension and arrogance&#8230;hardly &#8220;Christ-like&#8221;.   I mention this only because there are MANY Republican &#8220;Christian&#8221; types who wanna ease their own guilt of their perpetuation of social slavery and unfair taxation by befriending the LGBT community with one hand while holding civil rights outside of our reach with the other hand.   Nice.</p>
<p>I choose to NOT be around Republicans, not because I&#8217;m pouting and cannot hear different opinions, but because I cannot be in the same room with someone I do not trust.  I cannot be in the same room with someone who feigns friendship one day and votes away my civil rights the next.    They call ME intolerant?!   What a fortunate place to be in&#8230;.THEY have all of the rights!
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		<title>by: Greta Christina</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39047</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that “Gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry but I’m perfectly happy to work and socialise with them” is a valid position. I disagree with it, but I don’t think it’s inherently hypocritical."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fair enough. So let me ask you this: Do you think that "Gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry -- AND they shouldn't even be allowed to enter in domestic partnerships -- AND they shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military -- AND employers should be able to fire them simply because they're gay --- AND, in fact, I'm going to vote against every single gay rights bill that crosses my desk... but I'm perfectly happy to work and socialize with them"... do you think that is a valid, non hypocritical position as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think that “Gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry but I’m perfectly happy to work and socialise with them” is a valid position. I disagree with it, but I don’t think it’s inherently hypocritical.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough. So let me ask you this: Do you think that &#8220;Gay people shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to marry &#8212; AND they shouldn&#8217;t even be allowed to enter in domestic partnerships &#8212; AND they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to serve in the military &#8212; AND employers should be able to fire them simply because they&#8217;re gay &#8212; AND, in fact, I&#8217;m going to vote against every single gay rights bill that crosses my desk&#8230; but I&#8217;m perfectly happy to work and socialize with them&#8221;&#8230; do you think that is a valid, non hypocritical position as well?
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		<title>by: Elise Conolly</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39031</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not at all convinced by this.  I'm not much of a McCain fan, but I think that "Gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry but I'm perfectly happy to work and socialise with them" is a valid position.  I disagree with it, but I don't think it's inherently hypocritical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all convinced by this.  I&#8217;m not much of a McCain fan, but I think that &#8220;Gay people shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to marry but I&#8217;m perfectly happy to work and socialise with them&#8221; is a valid position.  I disagree with it, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s inherently hypocritical.
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		<title>by: Greta Christina: Why I do care about John McCain&#8217;s gay chief of staff : PinkNews.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39002</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Greta Christina: Why I do care about John McCain&#8217;s gay chief of staff : PinkNews.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-why-i-do-care-about-john-mccains-gay-chief-of-staff/851#comment-39003</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Mike Haubrich, FCD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One of he most striking themes to run through David Brock's book "Blinded by the Right" was the prevalence of this sort of nudge, nudge, wink, wink attitude of the right wing power brokers towards gay Republicans.  They publicly campaign and rail against the whole "gay agenda" thingy, and for "family values," but they also know that the best cocktail parties include gays and lesbians.  It was this hypocrisy that Brock could no longer deal with which led him to abandon conservatism all together and to start Media Matters for America.

It doesn't amaze me that "Log Cabin Republicans" are tolerated in the Jesus Party, they have money.  What amazes me is that they tolerate the Republican party.  Mark Buse may be a Republican because of his economic  views, but his refusal to stand up to McCain on social issues such as DOMA is the part that bothers me the most. The gay power brokers who are Republican need to grab these family values politicians by the short hairs and say "Stop it!"

I have a friend here in Minneapolis whose manhunt.com page had been rather quiet over the last few years because he was going steady with someone.  He ha nearly forgotten about it until the RNC came to St. Paul and its activity suddenly picked up and he was getting hundreds of messages per day through the convention. Some offered him quite a bit of money, and many were from guys who said they were married and wanted to have a good time while away from their wives.

If I had known they were willing to spend that much money, I would have been able to be gay for a week.  My point is that the closeting of gays as a matter of party platform is making liars and hypocrites of thousands of people.  If they would only stand up to the party, they could solve many of the problems of civil rights regarding gays.  But they won't.  Mark Buse, I puke on your shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of he most striking themes to run through David Brock&#8217;s book &#8220;Blinded by the Right&#8221; was the prevalence of this sort of nudge, nudge, wink, wink attitude of the right wing power brokers towards gay Republicans.  They publicly campaign and rail against the whole &#8220;gay agenda&#8221; thingy, and for &#8220;family values,&#8221; but they also know that the best cocktail parties include gays and lesbians.  It was this hypocrisy that Brock could no longer deal with which led him to abandon conservatism all together and to start Media Matters for America.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t amaze me that &#8220;Log Cabin Republicans&#8221; are tolerated in the Jesus Party, they have money.  What amazes me is that they tolerate the Republican party.  Mark Buse may be a Republican because of his economic  views, but his refusal to stand up to McCain on social issues such as DOMA is the part that bothers me the most. The gay power brokers who are Republican need to grab these family values politicians by the short hairs and say &#8220;Stop it!&#8221;</p>
<p>I have a friend here in Minneapolis whose manhunt.com page had been rather quiet over the last few years because he was going steady with someone.  He ha nearly forgotten about it until the RNC came to St. Paul and its activity suddenly picked up and he was getting hundreds of messages per day through the convention. Some offered him quite a bit of money, and many were from guys who said they were married and wanted to have a good time while away from their wives.</p>
<p>If I had known they were willing to spend that much money, I would have been able to be gay for a week.  My point is that the closeting of gays as a matter of party platform is making liars and hypocrites of thousands of people.  If they would only stand up to the party, they could solve many of the problems of civil rights regarding gays.  But they won&#8217;t.  Mark Buse, I puke on your shoes.
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		<title>by: Nentuaby</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I had a very intense case of deja vu about Clay Aiken until I remembered he is, in fact, a different person from Lance Bass.

I mostly agree with what you've said here... But I still really dread the howling sandstorm of hate that this will inevitably generate. The worst part is a lot of it will probably come from the Democratic side, just out of political expediency. Too many politicians who otherwise support equal rights rights- most days of the week- can't be bothered with the nuances of attacking the hypocrisy when something like this comes up, they just go for the straight for the bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a very intense case of deja vu about Clay Aiken until I remembered he is, in fact, a different person from Lance Bass.</p>
<p>I mostly agree with what you&#8217;ve said here&#8230; But I still really dread the howling sandstorm of hate that this will inevitably generate. The worst part is a lot of it will probably come from the Democratic side, just out of political expediency. Too many politicians who otherwise support equal rights rights- most days of the week- can&#8217;t be bothered with the nuances of attacking the hypocrisy when something like this comes up, they just go for the straight for the bigotry.
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