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	<title>Comments on: [Greta Christina] My Partner Cheated On Me With Their Right Hand</title>
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		<title>by: [Greta Christina] Can Watching Porn Be Cheating? &#124; Blowfish Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-117268</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Why not? Well, let me put it this way. Do people have the right to expect their partners not to masturbate? Or, for that matter, do people have the right to expect their partners not to watch reality TV or read true crime? On their own time, when they don&#8217;t have any obligations and their partner isn&#8217;t around? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Why not? Well, let me put it this way. Do people have the right to expect their partners not to masturbate? Or, for that matter, do people have the right to expect their partners not to watch reality TV or read true crime? On their own time, when they don&#8217;t have any obligations and their partner isn&#8217;t around? [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-83221</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have always thought that those who are jealous of masturbation are not very active masturbators themselves. They might have tried it out sometimes but have not grown into the habit and thus masturbation is not a part of expressing their sexuality. Then when they pair up with someone who regards masturbation the most natural thing, they have a hard time coping with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always thought that those who are jealous of masturbation are not very active masturbators themselves. They might have tried it out sometimes but have not grown into the habit and thus masturbation is not a part of expressing their sexuality. Then when they pair up with someone who regards masturbation the most natural thing, they have a hard time coping with it.
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		<title>by: Hambydammit</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-73339</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 21:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think some of the commenters are spot on about the insecurity many women feel when their men masturbate.  I've been doing a lot of thinking recently about healthy sex-positive living, and one of the things I have come to realize is that a healthy sense of one's own limitations is the only starting place when we begin trying to reshape our sexuality without the Christian cultural myths.

I'm lucky enough now to have a partner who enjoys both of our fantasy lives.  When she sees a tall blond German looking guy, I know she's thinking about fucking him, and I like it.  She's being open and honest with herself about what she likes and desires, and isn't trying to be something she's not to protect my ego.  What a compliment!  She trusts and loves me enough to know that I am ok with not being a 6'5" German underwear model.  In the same way, she realizes and appreciates the fact that no matter how old I get, twenty-one year old college girls will look really sexy.

Oh.. and there's the part where she likes girls, too.  That's a good thing.

When it comes right down to it, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that a healthy sex life requires a conscious and honest admission that "ownership" of anything between two people is a dead end road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the commenters are spot on about the insecurity many women feel when their men masturbate.  I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of thinking recently about healthy sex-positive living, and one of the things I have come to realize is that a healthy sense of one&#8217;s own limitations is the only starting place when we begin trying to reshape our sexuality without the Christian cultural myths.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky enough now to have a partner who enjoys both of our fantasy lives.  When she sees a tall blond German looking guy, I know she&#8217;s thinking about fucking him, and I like it.  She&#8217;s being open and honest with herself about what she likes and desires, and isn&#8217;t trying to be something she&#8217;s not to protect my ego.  What a compliment!  She trusts and loves me enough to know that I am ok with not being a 6&#8242;5&#8243; German underwear model.  In the same way, she realizes and appreciates the fact that no matter how old I get, twenty-one year old college girls will look really sexy.</p>
<p>Oh.. and there&#8217;s the part where she likes girls, too.  That&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>When it comes right down to it, I&#8217;ve pretty much come to the conclusion that a healthy sex life requires a conscious and honest admission that &#8220;ownership&#8221; of anything between two people is a dead end road.
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		<title>by: Carnival of the Godless #117 - State of Protest</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-73299</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Any time I see a new Greta Christina article pop up in my RSS reader, I know it&#8217;s going to be good. I&#8217;m never disappointed. Her submission reminds me of an article I wrote back in December, Being Religious is Like Eating Sand. Both touch on the question of whether spirituality, loosely defined as some desire or perceived connection with the unexplained and attributing it as a necessity to something supernatural, is something worth keeping after rejection of organized religion. Mine focuses generally on religion and religious belief, and Greta Christina&#8217;s focuses on spirituality. After you&#8217;re done reading her article, take a listen to her interview at Secular Nation, and then visit the Blowfish Blog for some of her excellent articles on sexuality (like her recent &#8220;My Partner Cheated On Me With Their Right Hand&#8220;). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Any time I see a new Greta Christina article pop up in my RSS reader, I know it&#8217;s going to be good. I&#8217;m never disappointed. Her submission reminds me of an article I wrote back in December, Being Religious is Like Eating Sand. Both touch on the question of whether spirituality, loosely defined as some desire or perceived connection with the unexplained and attributing it as a necessity to something supernatural, is something worth keeping after rejection of organized religion. Mine focuses generally on religion and religious belief, and Greta Christina&#8217;s focuses on spirituality. After you&#8217;re done reading her article, take a listen to her interview at Secular Nation, and then visit the Blowfish Blog for some of her excellent articles on sexuality (like her recent &#8220;My Partner Cheated On Me With Their Right Hand&#8220;). [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: ToppHogg</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-72753</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a victim of a "I should be good enough for you" marriage. Somehow, my sexual urges are supposed to precisely correspond with the twice-a-month-whether-you-need-it-or-not partner I married. I can't discuss sexual frequency, practices, attitudes, nor especially frustration. I have found over time it is more pragmatic to avoid the topic altogether rather than go through a lot of drama and evasive responses as to why I'm wrong and she's right. Despite all of the talking, reversion to the status quo is the only outcome. It's almost like trying to pin down Obama as to why he hasn't begun prosecuting Bush officials for torture and other crimes. As I am the only one suffering, I'll live with it - as I have for many years. Other options are not possible right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a victim of a &#8220;I should be good enough for you&#8221; marriage. Somehow, my sexual urges are supposed to precisely correspond with the twice-a-month-whether-you-need-it-or-not partner I married. I can&#8217;t discuss sexual frequency, practices, attitudes, nor especially frustration. I have found over time it is more pragmatic to avoid the topic altogether rather than go through a lot of drama and evasive responses as to why I&#8217;m wrong and she&#8217;s right. Despite all of the talking, reversion to the status quo is the only outcome. It&#8217;s almost like trying to pin down Obama as to why he hasn&#8217;t begun prosecuting Bush officials for torture and other crimes. As I am the only one suffering, I&#8217;ll live with it - as I have for many years. Other options are not possible right now.
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		<title>by: Jade</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-72064</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't think it's fear that one's partner will leave them to masturbate more that drives people to become overly jealous when their partner masturbates. I think that it's a fear of sexual inadequacy- the fear that you aren't good enough to pleasure them, and once they get bored with their hand, they'll move on to another partner altogether. That's just my though though. Lovely article by the way, and well written as always. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fear that one&#8217;s partner will leave them to masturbate more that drives people to become overly jealous when their partner masturbates. I think that it&#8217;s a fear of sexual inadequacy- the fear that you aren&#8217;t good enough to pleasure them, and once they get bored with their hand, they&#8217;ll move on to another partner altogether. That&#8217;s just my though though. Lovely article by the way, and well written as always. :)
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		<title>by: Elin</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-71880</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can't relate to feeling jealous about your partner masturbating. The only thing I can kind of understand is that sometimes, if your partner is a man, and he's whacking off so much the day before he sees you that you can't get him to cum when he's with you, that can be frustrating. Just because it's pretty satisfying to make someone cum...it's not quite the rush you might think it'd be, but it's nice.

I have a feeling that you're right on the money on this one: this jealousy-over-masturbating thing is about control. "He's only supposed tobe having that much fun with me!" I can sort of understand, but it's still lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t relate to feeling jealous about your partner masturbating. The only thing I can kind of understand is that sometimes, if your partner is a man, and he&#8217;s whacking off so much the day before he sees you that you can&#8217;t get him to cum when he&#8217;s with you, that can be frustrating. Just because it&#8217;s pretty satisfying to make someone cum&#8230;it&#8217;s not quite the rush you might think it&#8217;d be, but it&#8217;s nice.</p>
<p>I have a feeling that you&#8217;re right on the money on this one: this jealousy-over-masturbating thing is about control. &#8220;He&#8217;s only supposed tobe having that much fun with me!&#8221; I can sort of understand, but it&#8217;s still lame.
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		<title>by: Sue</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-71849</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've talked to many of my girl friends about this (I don't know if my sample is just self-selecting, but most of the people I know complaining about their partner's masturbation habits have been women partnered with men*). The most common complaint is "aren't I good enough?" - both in terms, "isn't just me enough for him" and "he's looking at perfect porno women and/or thinking about someone else and that makes me feel insecure". 

So I think there is a lot of both fear and insecurity involved too: 

~ insecurity that you're not as good as women who fuck for a living and have the bodies to prove it, if he's looking at porn. If he's not, then he must be thinking about another woman, another woman &lt;i&gt;he actually knows&lt;/i&gt; - because if he weren't, he'd be having sex with me rather than on his own. 

~ fear that masturbating to porn is a "gateway drug" to actual sex with an actual other person. We could perhaps blame the Bible for this attitude: "But I say to you, anyone who stares at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

*There have been a few gay men complaining their boyfriend looks at porn too much too. I've never heard a man complain that a woman looks at porn too much. Except my partner ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve talked to many of my girl friends about this (I don&#8217;t know if my sample is just self-selecting, but most of the people I know complaining about their partner&#8217;s masturbation habits have been women partnered with men*). The most common complaint is &#8220;aren&#8217;t I good enough?&#8221; - both in terms, &#8220;isn&#8217;t just me enough for him&#8221; and &#8220;he&#8217;s looking at perfect porno women and/or thinking about someone else and that makes me feel insecure&#8221;. </p>
<p>So I think there is a lot of both fear and insecurity involved too: </p>
<p>~ insecurity that you&#8217;re not as good as women who fuck for a living and have the bodies to prove it, if he&#8217;s looking at porn. If he&#8217;s not, then he must be thinking about another woman, another woman <i>he actually knows</i> - because if he weren&#8217;t, he&#8217;d be having sex with me rather than on his own. </p>
<p>~ fear that masturbating to porn is a &#8220;gateway drug&#8221; to actual sex with an actual other person. We could perhaps blame the Bible for this attitude: &#8220;But I say to you, anyone who stares at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>*There have been a few gay men complaining their boyfriend looks at porn too much too. I&#8217;ve never heard a man complain that a woman looks at porn too much. Except my partner ;-)
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		<title>by: What I did May 10th - Eddie Current</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Ola</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-71690</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I suspect it's fairly simple: they're jealous because of the fantasies the partner has. It's not as much about masturbation as about who they think about when they masturbate. And then it's all the feelings you listed: insecurity, hurt feelings, possessiveness.

Also, one reason you guessed: it's a part of that myth that my partner should be able to satisfy my *every* need. If I masturbate... that means he failed! I heard this once from a woman who had such feelings: "I should be enough for him". Well, that explains it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it&#8217;s fairly simple: they&#8217;re jealous because of the fantasies the partner has. It&#8217;s not as much about masturbation as about who they think about when they masturbate. And then it&#8217;s all the feelings you listed: insecurity, hurt feelings, possessiveness.</p>
<p>Also, one reason you guessed: it&#8217;s a part of that myth that my partner should be able to satisfy my *every* need. If I masturbate&#8230; that means he failed! I heard this once from a woman who had such feelings: &#8220;I should be enough for him&#8221;. Well, that explains it.
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		<title>by: Steve Caldwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 01:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Greta -- I like the article and the Optimus Prime graphic too.</description>
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		<title>by: littleblackdress</title>
		<link>http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/greta-christina-my-partner-cheated-on-me-with-their-right-hand/1106#comment-71552</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Even in a serious relationship, I expect both myself and my partner to masturbate fairly regularly. The enjoyment and release that I get from masturbation is almost &lt;em&gt;completely different&lt;/em&gt; from the enjoyment and release that I get from our adult playtime and I suppose because it is really different, for me, it's something that I can understand continuing to indulge in even with a very active non-masturbatory sex life.

Perhaps for some people, an orgasm is an orgasm and there's no difference (in their minds) between when they masturbate and when they have sex. At least, that's the reasoning I've always told myself as to the phenomena you're describing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in a serious relationship, I expect both myself and my partner to masturbate fairly regularly. The enjoyment and release that I get from masturbation is almost <em>completely different</em> from the enjoyment and release that I get from our adult playtime and I suppose because it is really different, for me, it&#8217;s something that I can understand continuing to indulge in even with a very active non-masturbatory sex life.</p>
<p>Perhaps for some people, an orgasm is an orgasm and there&#8217;s no difference (in their minds) between when they masturbate and when they have sex. At least, that&#8217;s the reasoning I&#8217;ve always told myself as to the phenomena you&#8217;re describing.
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		<title>by: annajcook</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like the way that you break down the feeling of jealousy into distinct sub-categories of response . . . I, too, often locate "jealousy" in myself in the fear/insecurity nexus: I usually figure it's an emotion to pay attention to because it signals not so much that I have anything objectively to be jealous of, but that I'm not getting &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt; I want or need, or I'm not feeling secure with the person for some reason. Reasons which are worth locating and thinking how to deal with.  

When it comes to solitary sex vs. partnered sex specifically . . .? I feel like solo sex is analogous to going off and spending time by yourself reading a book or going for a walk.  Even in a relationship, most people need alone-time.  Why not alone-sex too? 

But our culture doesn't see masturbation as a legitimate way of being connected to yourself: we still frame masturbation as a substitute for partnered sex -- something that people do when they can't get sex with someone else. So actually, I think insecurity could be a really big part of peoples' unhappiness with a partner masturbating: they could be reading it as a judgment of their "performance" as a sexual partner.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I absolutely do not get the part about how being in a relationship means diverting every milliliter of your sexuality towards your partner — and how any divergence from this is tantamount to betrayal. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the romantic narrative about partnered sex, too, idealizes a sexual relationship -- and that partner -- as being able to meet all of your sexual and emotional needs.  So when it turns out that your partner has a relationship with their sexuality that is entirely independent from you, that can probably be threatening.  Especially if you, yourself, don't have a similar relationship with your own sexuality. 

This is particularly true in the sexual-conservative/abstinence-only narratives about sex (which are creeping ever further into the sexual mainstream right now), in which there's this sort of scarcity-of-resources model of human sexuality. Policing sex, in and outside of marriage relationships, is in large part about channeling what is percieved to be a limited supply of erotic capacity toward your partner -- rather than imagining that that capacity is infinitely expandable.  So in the limited-supply concept of sex, any sexual energy spent on yourself directly takes away from sexual energy you would otherwise spend on/with your partner. &lt;em&gt;Even if in practical terms the sexual relationship appears to be flourishing.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way that you break down the feeling of jealousy into distinct sub-categories of response . . . I, too, often locate &#8220;jealousy&#8221; in myself in the fear/insecurity nexus: I usually figure it&#8217;s an emotion to pay attention to because it signals not so much that I have anything objectively to be jealous of, but that I&#8217;m not getting <em>something</em> I want or need, or I&#8217;m not feeling secure with the person for some reason. Reasons which are worth locating and thinking how to deal with.  </p>
<p>When it comes to solitary sex vs. partnered sex specifically . . .? I feel like solo sex is analogous to going off and spending time by yourself reading a book or going for a walk.  Even in a relationship, most people need alone-time.  Why not alone-sex too? </p>
<p>But our culture doesn&#8217;t see masturbation as a legitimate way of being connected to yourself: we still frame masturbation as a substitute for partnered sex &#8212; something that people do when they can&#8217;t get sex with someone else. So actually, I think insecurity could be a really big part of peoples&#8217; unhappiness with a partner masturbating: they could be reading it as a judgment of their &#8220;performance&#8221; as a sexual partner.  </p>
<blockquote><p>But I absolutely do not get the part about how being in a relationship means diverting every milliliter of your sexuality towards your partner — and how any divergence from this is tantamount to betrayal. </p></blockquote>
<p>I think the romantic narrative about partnered sex, too, idealizes a sexual relationship &#8212; and that partner &#8212; as being able to meet all of your sexual and emotional needs.  So when it turns out that your partner has a relationship with their sexuality that is entirely independent from you, that can probably be threatening.  Especially if you, yourself, don&#8217;t have a similar relationship with your own sexuality. </p>
<p>This is particularly true in the sexual-conservative/abstinence-only narratives about sex (which are creeping ever further into the sexual mainstream right now), in which there&#8217;s this sort of scarcity-of-resources model of human sexuality. Policing sex, in and outside of marriage relationships, is in large part about channeling what is percieved to be a limited supply of erotic capacity toward your partner &#8212; rather than imagining that that capacity is infinitely expandable.  So in the limited-supply concept of sex, any sexual energy spent on yourself directly takes away from sexual energy you would otherwise spend on/with your partner. <em>Even if in practical terms the sexual relationship appears to be flourishing.</em>
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